Flowery tipo de personalidade mbti
Personalidade
"¿Qué tipo de personalidad es Flowery? Flowery es un tipo de personalidad ENFJ en mbti, 2w3 - SO2 - 271 en enneagram, SCOAI en Big 5, EIE en Socionics."
FLOWERY IS NOT AN ENNEATYPE 3 (1/2) I've noticed a recent increase in votes for Flowery as a core Enneagram 3, which honestly surprised me, since I couldn't identify most of the psychological components that define the basic structure of Type 3 in his characterization. After reading the arguments on this page, I came to the conclusion that the claim that Flowery is *not* a Type 2 is generally not based on disproving the core fixation or basic fear of Enneagram 2. Instead, it relies on comparing his characterization to a specific interpretation of the Social 2 subtype. For this reason, I'd like to focus less on subtype and more on the essence of the personality (the core type). I don't think attempting to fit a subtype before first establishing the basic Enneagram structure leads to an accurate understanding of Flowery's character. To begin, let's look at the description of Type 3's passion, Ego-Vanity: "Vanity is a passionate concern for one's image, or a passion of living for the eyes of others. Living for appearances implies that the focus of concern is not in one's own experience, but in the anticipation or fantasy of the experience of another, and thus the insubstantiality of the vain pursuit." At first glance, this might seem to vaguely describe Flowery's goal throughout Chapter 5, as he dedicates himself to creating a utopia that fulfills every one of Asgore's needs (a kind of "fantasy" or "anticipation”). However, stopping the analysis there overlooks the actual structure of Ego-Vanity. The passion of Type 3 is not expressed as a complete disregard for one's own experience. On the contrary, Type 3 constructs an identity around an idealized self, cultivating the traits that are objectively valued by their environment (whether that standard comes from society, a culture, or a particular group). Consequently, there is a strong emphasis on the self and on achieving this ideal, along with a desire to receive recognition for doing so. "In the E3 character, therefore, there is an ambitious ego demand to attain and maintain an objectively defined idealized image. This stems from a need to impress and be valued by the environment, and in response, there is a deep emphasis on their ability to always stay in control, efficient and on the grind." I've seen some people dismiss the possibility of Type 2 simply because Flowery refers to himself as "useless." Ironically, I think this pushes him even further away from Type 3. Since the core fear of Type 3 is worthlessness, Flowery's willingness to describe himself this way suggests that his actions are not motivated by cultivating an objectively valuable image. As he openly states, what he wants is to repay the love Asgore gave him and to create a world where Asgore no longer suffers. Although Flowery's dialogue may initially give the impression that he places himself *beneath* Asgore, what actually stands out is his unwavering conviction that *he* knows what is best for Asgore (what Asgore truly needs and what will actually make him happy). This pattern extends beyond Asgore as well; throughout the chapter, Flowery repeatedly acts as though he understands what is best for everyone else. "Oh, Raly. Maybe I did tease you too much. This whole time, I was doing it thinking... it'd help you realize you could be happy. Instead, just seems like it made you jealous... that we don't have to follow your silly little rules." This aligns much more closely with the cognitive structure behind Ego-Pride than with Ego-Vanity. "The cognitive support to Pride constitutes the belief that the E2 inherently has a lot of love and needs to give it to others to become indispensable and central in the lives of others. The repression of their underlying neediness for love, because if they have to ask for love then they believe they are therefore not lovable. Others are in need of my love; I am not in need of others' love." Flowery's insistence on "repaying" the love Asgore showed him, together with his determination to create an ideal world according to *his own* understanding of what that ideal should be, resembles the psychology of Type 2 far more than that of Type 3. I think much of the confusion comes from reducing Ego-Pride to simple arrogance or selfishness. In reality, Pride often manifests as the unconscious belief that one already knows what is best for others, subtly placing oneself in a superior position despite appearing deeply devoted or self-sacrificing. "They take what is internal and unconscious and say, 'That person wants what I have to give them,' and because of their deeply intimate relationship with love they are able to realize the 'true desires' of whoever they project their love-need to."
