Enneagram Subtype 8w7 type de personnalité MBTI
Personnalité
"Quel type de personnalité est Enneagram Subtype 8w7? Enneagram Subtype 8w7 est un type de personnalité ENTJ dans MBTI, 8w7 - sx/so - 873 dans Enneagram, SLUEN dans Big 5, SLE dans Socionics."
(1/2) Quick refutation of the "Only Se doms can be 8's" shit First of Naranjo work is 1 to 1 with ichazo original work on enneagram, Ichazo saw his works and recognized it as identical to his so a type combination that works on Ichazo ennea also works on the other and vice-versa > "Honestly I was expecting Naranjo to demonstrate more unfair treatment of the Arica material and to plainly ignore the fact that this material has been published and copyrighted by Arica Institute and that I am its sole originator. Naranjo presents the structure and psychodynamics of the five Centers in the same way that I presented them, as can be seen in the Arica publications, so he contradicts Arica neither fundamentally nor substantially. What he does is produce a critical analysis of the semantics of some of the names tentatively appointed during my first introductory lectures. He also observes some changes in hermeneutics and interpretation, which are the fruit of his long work with Protoanalysis. However, he does not present any new theoretical points nor any reform of the structure of the material." So using Eset explanations about ichazo 8 we can see they're essentially the same while being compatible to Te https://www.docdroid.net/mXEPAX4/finding-the-e8-in-extraverted-thinking-pdf#page=8 Sensory-motor: its an irrelevant trait that is based on Sheldon work about body types, especially the mesomorphic body type, its not a psychological or cognitive trait rather a trait of physique+extroversion, even most moderately healthy introverts will relate to most of its traits unless the shape of your body will inherently dictate your enneagram (an assumptions that is irrational and illogical to make) Here Naranjo talks about the mesomorphic body type being the most predatorial and agressive one, traits unrelated to cognition. "Sheldon’s Somatotonia11 should not be left out of this discussion, somatotonia clearly finds its maximum in ennea-type VIII. “Constitutionally related to mesomorphic development (skeleton, muscles and connective tissue) somatotonia expresses the function of movement and predation,” says Sheldon." So when Naranjo uses the iconic: "A sensory- motor disposition (the somatotonic background of lust) may be regarded as the natural soil in which lust proper is supported." Its not about being oriented by sensations and rejecting intuition its about a body type that possess capabilities towards subjugating other and when we look at the traits from the Somatotania character, then we will notice a pattern for intensity and dominance, usually in the physical realm. Therefore, we can see that sensory-motor basically means: "A passion for intensity and dominance in the physical realm may be regarded as the natural soil in which lust proper is supported." https://www.docdroid.net/fJMfHtX/684-2727-1-pb-pdf "Anti-intuitive": 8's aren't inherently anti-intuitive and it was never a trait he used to invalidate someone being a 8 He typed Socrates, Karl marx, Diogenes, Stalin and more as 8's even when they're all notorious for their intuition capabilities https://youtu.be/9sxNV9f1Nys So atleast being extroverted+intuitive is not something that goes against 8 and atmost intuition has no Power over it Naranjo himself supports intuitive as he said this about 8's on his book called "Vanidad" about ennea 3, confirming even more that intuition is not a counterpoint against 8 "If we consider the confluence of the conservational E3 as a form of survival, we can understand the demand to be for the other as a lifestyle. This aspect leads to the development of highly intuitive individuals, who in this facet resemble the E8, although with very different motivations." Original text "Este aspecto lleva a desarrollar individuos altamente intuitivos, que en esta faceta se parecen al E8, aunque con motivaciones bien diferentes." https://ibb.co/D5n9NmW
Biographie
THE EIGHT WITH A SEVEN-WING: THE INDEPENDENT Having a quick mind combined with a vision for practical possibilities, healthy people of this subtype are often charismatic and able to attract the support of others to join them in their vision. They are action-oriented, and want to have an impact on their world. They are also good at challenging others to stretch their abilities and to surpass their own expectations so that their lives can be better in some practical way. This is the most independent subtype, often entrepreneurial, and interested in creating projects that will ensure their independence. Average people of this subtype are adventurous risk-takers; they tend to have "big plans" and, in order to enlist the cooperation of others, to make big promises and exaggerate the potential of their ventures. They are also one of the most sociable types, talkative and outgoing, with great self-confidence. They are pragmatic, practical, and competitive and are not overly concerned with pleasing others or with putting up with what they perceive as weakness or inefficiency. They can become impatient, impulsive, and more likely to be led by their feelings than the 8w9. They are more openly aggressive and confrontational and less likely to back down from a fight.
